The same day the Vermont Senate backed a health care reform bill, Gov. Peter Shumlin spoke over the phone on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show about the reform effort in the Green Mountain State.
During the 6-minute interview over the phone, Shumlin said many of the things Vermonters who have followed the debate have already heard: health care is a right, the system is too expensive and it's hurting businesses.
Maddow's first question was whether Vermont is headed for a single-payer system.
"Absolutely," said Shumlin, who campaigned on single-payer health care.
There has been intense lobbying on the health care bill at the Statehouse, but Shumlin thinks a lack of major lobbying campaigns by the insurance and pharmaceutical industries is a reason health care reform in the U.S. will be led by small states like Vermont.
“They just don’t really notice us all that much,” Shumlin said.
For the record: Shumlin did not manage to squeeze in a reference to maple syrup.
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